Solitaire Games - Fair Trade it Forward Part 2
His rules seemed to work well, so we will just continue them. The restricted list has been edited. I would also like to put a list together of the games that will be on the roughly 24 hour window. We will deal with it as it arises. I would expect I will make some errors as I learn to do this. Just let me know and I will work to do better!! Thanks!Solitaire Games - Fair Trade It Forward
This list is inspired by the Wargamers - Fair Trade it Forward, which was itself inspired by the BGG WARGAME Chain of Generosity (which is also similar to the The Solo Games Chain of Generosity). So it has quite the pedigree in generosity.
The purpose of this geeklist is to get solitaire games (or games that can be played with solitaire variants) moving from homes where they are not being played to homes where they can be more appreciated. It is not an auction or drawing system. It is a direct 1:1 item or bundle gifting of trust to one person in response to an item received from another.
As compared to the existing The Solo Games Chain of Generosity, this is one long single chain. Since there is no drawing element, there is no conflict with that system (which is fun to take part in as well).
How It Works
The last item on the list is always the item currently available for offer. A person may claim the item by offering another item to "pay forward". When that item is claimed by another person, they are sent the item they claimed.
To Claim An Item
Calling "dibs" on an item is not a valid claim. The only way to make a claim on an item is to post the next item on the geeklist. You do this by clicking "Add Item" and then choosing the solo game that you are offering. This will be listed in the header for your item. In the description, please state which item you're claiming (if there is a choice) from the previous geeklist item and then the details of the item you're offering. (view the history on Wargamers - Fair Trade it Forward for a clear understanding).
Only one claim can be made against a geeklist item. The first one to post a valid claim (i.e. a new item) is the claimant.
To Receive An Item
In order to receive the item you claimed, a claim must be made on your offered item. Once a claim is made, the person who offered the item you claimed should contact you and arrange shipping.
Deadlines (updated 2/28/2018)
Normal Time Window: Roughly 48 hours*
Reduced Time Window: Roughly 24 hours*
* special trial values during February 2018 (LINK TO POLL). Declared normal on 2/28/2018.
An item typically has the normal time window (specified at the top of this section) in which to be claimed. I as moderator may extend that during holiday periods, etc., but it will always be at least the normal time window length from when the item was first listed (see note below for exceptions). During that period, you may add additional items or optional choices to entice someone to claim your item (and enable you to receive yours). After the window has expired, the item will be removed from the Geeklist ONLY by the moderator and the previous item will be back on offer until claimed again.
NOTE: Certain low value items or items of low list interest (as determined by the list moderator) may be noted as under the reduced time window (specified at the top of this section). The moderator will comment on the item indicating the reduced period.
Should this happen, the chain is only rewound one item. All previous sends should have already happened by that point.
All times stated by the moderator are in the Eastern US Time Zone (either DST or not depending on the month). Time windows are relative to the timestamp on the geeklist entry which is adjusted for your timezone by BGG (if set to do so).
What Can Be Offered
(effective 4/27/2017 a list of restricted games will be included at the bottom of this header)
As this is for solitaire games, the primary item offered should be a game that can be played by a single human being WITHOUT PLAYING AGAINST THEMSELVES. This includes solo games, solo vs. AI games, and cooperative games. Two player wargames are not allowed as the primary offering.
Expansions: Expansions for solo games that do not impede solo play (i.e. make the base game multiplayer only) are allowed as a primary item. (example: adventure packs for LOTR LCG). Official (i.e. from the same company) Expansions for a normally multiplayer game that add solo play are allowed as a primary item. (example: Conflict of Heroes Solo Expansion).
Solo Variants: If the game includes an OFFICIAL solo variant (either in the box or from the publisher) it can be included as the primary item.
Other Types of items that may not fall into the clear categories above yet lend themselves to the solo spirit of this list will be considered on a one by one basis. Please ask via private message if you have any doubt an item qualifies.
There is also no rule that says a game you offer has to be in your collection. You could offer a game to be dropshipped to someone from a retailer (might save you on shipping). You may NOT however offer a gift certificate or spending spree as an item or an option.
Likewise crowdfunded (Kickstarter, etc.) items that are not in the possession of the claimant may NOT be offered as main items or as options. There is too much risk involved that could backfire down stream when the list has moved well past it.
Optional choices or secondary items (added to make the offering sweeter) can be included in the body of the geeklist item. Be sure to mark them as a choice or as included with the primary item. These choices can be any game, not strictly solitaire. Provided the main item meets the solo requirements.
Questions concerning an item's condition, edition, shipping or any other details should be asked in the comments of the item in question. The offering person should be sure to subscribe to their listing so that questions can be answered promptly.
The person offering the item agrees to ship anywhere in the world (certain risky countries may be explicitly stated as an exception, but of course may hinder the desirability of your offer).
The person offering the item is expected to cover the shipping of the item to the person receiving it. However, there are the following exceptions.
You may specify a cap on shipping to another country.
You may specify a cap on shipping in general.
You may NOT specify shipping restrictions on a subsection of a country. (i.e. you cannot ship free to CONUS and charge for Alaska or Hawaii or APO/FPO).
APO/FPO are considered part of the USA for shipping.
Keep in mind that shipping restrictions may reduce the interest in your offering.
Shipping should occur as close to your offered item being released as possible. If there are extenuating circumstances to prevent rapid shipping, please notify the recipient as soon as possible. If there are any concerns, please let me know and I will see if I can help.
If you are interested in an item with shipping restrictions, you must work out (either in comments or private message) with the lister any shipping expenses BEFORE you make a claim on the item.
The Fair-Trade concept is a great compromise to insure gamers can move games along while providing a fair means of insuring they offering something of comparable value in return from what they are receiving. Value is always in the eyes of the recipient of course. But being a good sport and offering something of roughly the same value you will receive will make this list a success.
Game 0 is the current offer.
Jane offers Game A in claim for the previous item (Game 0).
Bob wants Game A, so he offers Game B as the next item on the list. As a valid claim has been made on Game A, the person who offered game 0 can now ship to Jane. Jane does not ship Game A to Bob yet.
Gina wants Game B, so she offers Game C. Jane ships Game A to Bob. Bob waits to ship Game B until Gina's offer is claimed.
48 hours later, in spite of Gina's best efforts, no one wants her stinkin' game. So that offer is withdrawn (item deleted by her or the mod). Bob's offer of Game B is back up for grabs. Nothing else is rolled back, but it's up to Bob to make sure his offer is claimed to insure the integrity of the fair trade (he already has his game from Jane).
Fortunately George also wants Game B and offers Game D for it.
Dana wants Game D, and makes an offer of Game E. Bob ships to George. George waits for Game D to be claimed...
... and so on and so forth.
IMPORTANT: In the unlikely event, you believe that someone is not following the intent of these rules, DO NOT point it out publicly on this list. Instead geekmail me privately and if I think the situation needs to be addressed, I will do so.
A person cannot make a claim on their own item.
A person whose claim just expired may not submit a subsequent claim for the same item unless a full new offer window time period (48 hours) has passed. This is to allow someone else a fair chance to claim the item.
If Your Offer Times Out... Do NOT delete your listing. I will delete the items myself after capturing a screenshot for transparency. I don't want people to get in the habit of simply deleting offers as it then might cause confusion as to when the previous offer timed out, etc.
I'm normally on to catch these 50% of the time (or soon after), but occasionally I have other engagements (LIFE!).
Thanks!Restricted Games List wrote:Restricted Games List - The following games MAY NOT be posted as a primary offer in spite of being qualified by all apparent criteria. They are in most cases too commonly available or already owned to generate any interest from the community. They may be included as additional or optional choices, but not as the primary selection.
Bottom of the 9th
The Castles of Burgundy: The Card Game
Elevenses for One
Fast Forward: FLEE
One Deck Dungeon
Onirim (Second Edition)
Tiny Epic Defenders
Tiny Epic Western
Warhammer Quest: The Adventure Card Game
* = Moderator Prerogative (any questions, GM me)Ineligible Users List wrote:Ineligible Users List - Offers from these users before the date noted are not valid claims.
None at this time.
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